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title: "Ashton Featured in \"Workflow for MSPs\" Podcast"
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# Ashton Featured in "Workflow for MSPs" Podcast

Ashton EVP Travis Grundke was  recently featured on the second episode of the "Workflow for MSPs" podcast, with Jennifer Tribe.  A recent hiring push forced Travis to shift his recruitment strategies for a post-COVID world. Travis shares how hiring is different now than before the pandemic, what candidates are really looking for in this market, how to attract top candidates even if you can’t offer top dollar, and the critical importance of mentoring as part of your MSP hiring strategy.

You can[listen to the entire podcast here](https://pod.link/1666077112/episode/f391e9c3bb5c34bea7c3b6f921b4bb99) or grab a couple of snippets, below.

["The salary disconnect in the MSP industry"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-A7nEHlvl8)

["How to find great techs"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLVU0xfx0gw)

["You have to train *and* mentor"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmeLzkQ0tPo)

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